In this episode of the First Impressions podcast, hosts Chris John Riley and Martin McKay interview Satoshi Okada and Takuho Mitsunaga , researchers from Toyo University who will be speaking at FIRSTCON24. In the episode, they discuss artificial intelligence, specifically large language models (LLMs) like ChatGPT, and the importance of multi-stakeholder governance for safer AI development. Okada and Mitsunaga explain the pros and cons of LLMs and emphasize the need for governance. Tune in to learn more and be sure to attend their talk this June in Fukuoka!