Katie Martin sits down with Dr. Katie Novak, bestselling author, UDL expert, and powerhouse educator. They unpack what Universal Design for Learning (UDL) really means, how systems need to evolve to support educators, and why learner agency and inclusive design are non-negotiable. With relatable metaphors (hello, buffet dinners and iPhones), heartfelt moments, and practical insights, this episode is a must-listen for educators who want to do things differently and better.