On this episode of Crazy Wisdom, Stewart Alsop speaks with pianist and AI innovator Ayse Deniz, who is behind "Classical Regenerated," a tribute project that uses artificial intelligence to bring classical composers back to life. Ayse shares how she trains AI models on historical documents, letters, and research to create interactive experiences where audiences can "speak" with figures like Chopin. The conversation explores the implications of AI in music, education, and human perception, touching on active listening, the evolution of artistic taste, and the philosophical questions surrounding artificial intelligence. You can connect with Ayse’s through Instagram or learn more about her work visiting her website at adpianist.com.

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Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to the Crazy Wisdom Podcast

00:17 Exploring the Classical Regenerated Project

00:39 AI in Live Concerts and Historical Accuracy

02:25 Active Listening and the Impact of Music

04:33 Personal Experiences with Classical Music

09:46 The Role of AI in Education and Learning

16:30 Cultural Differences in Music Education

21:33 The Future of AI and Human Interaction

30:13 Political Correctness and Its Impact on Society

35:23 The Struggles of Music Students

36:32 Wisdom Traditions and Tough Love

37:28 Cultural Differences in Education

39:57 The Role of AI in Music Education

42:23 Challenges and Opportunities with AI

47:21 The Future of Governance and AI

50:11 The Intersection of Technology and Humanity

56:05 Creating AI-Enhanced Music Projects

01:06:23 Final Thoughts and Future Plans

Key Insights

1. AI is transforming how we engage with classical music – Ayse Deniz’s Classical Regenerated project brings historical composers like Chopin back to life using AI models trained on their letters, academic research, and historical documents. By allowing audiences to interact with AI-generated versions of these composers, she not only preserves their legacy but also creates a bridge between the past and the future of music.
2. Active listening is a lost skill that AI can help revive – Modern music consumption often treats music as background noise rather than an art form requiring deep attention. Ayse uses AI-generated compositions alongside original works to challenge audiences to distinguish between them, fostering a more engaged and analytical approach to listening.
3. The nature of artistic interpretation is evolving with AI – Traditionally, human performers interpret classical compositions with emotional nuance, timing, and dynamics. AI-generated performances are now reaching a level where they can mimic these subtleties, raising questions about whether machines can eventually match or even surpass human expressiveness in music.
4. AI’s impact on education will depend on how it is designed – Ayse emphasizes that AI should not replace teachers but rather serve as a tool to encourage students to practice more and develop discipline. By creating an AI music tutor for children, she aims to support learning in a way that complements human instruction rather than undermining it.
5. Technology is reshaping the psychology of expertise – With AI capable of outperforming humans in various fields, there is an emerging question of how people will psychologically adapt to always being second-best to machines. The discussion touches on whether AI-generated knowledge and creativity will demotivate human effort or inspire new forms of artistic and intellectual pursuits.
6. The philosophical implications of AI challenge our sense of reality – As AI-generated personas and compositions become more convincing, distinguishing between what is “real” and what is synthetic is becoming increasingly difficult. The episode explores the idea that we may already be living in a kind of simulation, where our perception of reality is constructed and mediated by evolving technologies.
7. AI is accelerating personal empowerment but also risks centralization – Just as personal computing once promised decentralization but led to the rise of tech giants, AI has the potential to give individuals new creative powers while also concentrating influence in the hands of those who control the technology. Ayse’s work exemplifies how AI can be used for artistic and educational empowerment, but it also raises questions about the need for ethical development and accessibility in AI tools.