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                <div><a target="_blank" href="https://toolshed.com/">Andy Hunt</a></div>
                <div><a target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/PragmaticAndy">@PragmaticAndy</a></div>
                
                <div><a target="_blank" href="https://pragdave.me/">Dave Thomas</a></div>
                <div><a target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/pragdave">@pragdave</a></div>
                
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        <span>Full show notes are at <a href="https://developeronfire.com/podcast/episode-437-andy-hunt-and-dave-thomas-the-pragmatic-programmer-20th-anniversary-edition">https://developeronfire.com/podcast/episode-437-andy-hunt-and-dave-thomas-the-pragmatic-programmer-20th-anniversary-edition</a></span>
    
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Guest: Andy Hunt @PragmaticAndy Dave Thomas @pragdave Full show notes are at https://developeronfire.com/podcast/episode-437-andy-hunt-and-dave-thomas-the-pragmatic-programmer-20th-anniversary-edition

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    </p>Guest:
    
        
        
            
                
                
                <a href="https://toolshed.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Andy Hunt</a>
                <a href="http://twitter.com/PragmaticAndy" rel="noopener noreferrer">@PragmaticAndy</a>
                
                <a href="https://pragdave.me/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dave Thomas</a>
                <a href="http://twitter.com/pragdave" rel="noopener noreferrer">@pragdave</a>
                
                
            
        
    
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        Full show notes are at <a href="https://developeronfire.com/podcast/episode-437-andy-hunt-and-dave-thomas-the-pragmatic-programmer-20th-anniversary-edition" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://developeronfire.com/podcast/episode-437-andy-hunt-and-dave-thomas-the-pragmatic-programmer-20th-anniversary-edition</a>
    
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Episode 437 | Andy Hunt and Dave Thomas - The Pragmatic Programmer, 20th Anniversary Edition

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Developer On Fire with Dave Rael is an interview podcast with inspiring and successful software professionals telling personal stories about their experiences with delivering value. It is a chance for you to get to know your favorite geeks and learn more about who they are, how they deliver, and what makes them tick. Learn from and get to know special geeks like Matt Wynne, Rob Eisenberg, Udi Dahan, Ted Neward, John Sonmez, Phil Haack, and David Heinemeier Hansson.

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