Carter is joined by the intensely powerful band Closet Witch. They discuss the grief and rage that fuels their music, how they manage to stay DIY, and using music as an outlet.

You can see an example of Closet Witch's incredible live performances here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJYWRhoZ-Fs

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