Jeffrey and Isaac discuss the concept of ‘doing more with less.’ They explore the initial visceral reaction to this idea and highlight the importance of doing less of things that don't matter. The impact of layoffs and the need to work smarter, not harder, are also discussed. The hosts emphasize the value of having honest discussions and creating a culture of transparency. They caution against burnout and advocate for trimming the fat responsibly. The episode concludes with a reminder to acknowledge mistakes and continuously learn.