Something a little different this week on the podcast! A few weeks ago Jon had the opportunity to join Zach Meerkreebs of Envision for a Facebook live interview. Envision is a ministry of the Christian & Missionary Alliance (Jon's denomination) which seeks to develop missional leaders though short-term trips, internships and ministry opportunities in the Alliance family. Listen in to Jon & Zach's conversation about serving in multicultural ministries and developing leaders in the Chinese Heritage Church!