Tim speaks with former Border Patrol agent and UTRGV Professor Robert "Mike" Magee. The two discuss an ongoing collaborative project founded by Magee in 2018,  using Tim's book, "All They Will Call You" to teach empathy and compassion to future Border Patrol agents.

Mike Magee is a retired Lecturer in the Criminal Justice Department at the University of Texas Rio Grande Valley (UTRGV).  He is the editor of the published anthology textbook, The Contemporary Law Enforcement Anthology, Challenges and Opportunities for Today’s Officers. He holds a Master of Public Administration (MPA) degree, with an emphasis in Alternate Dispute Resolution, and a Bachelor of Science degree in Biology from the State University of New York. He’s had a thirty-year career in local and federal law enforcement, including twenty-two years with U.S. Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) and its predecessor agency U.S. Immigration & Naturalization Service (INS). He served as the national president of the INS employees’ labor Union. 

He has presented at numerous national conferences, been interviewed in the national media, and testified before congressional committees and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute at the U.S. Capitol Building. Since his retirement in 2023, he has also been volunteering at the Santa Ana National Wildlife Refuge, Alamo, Texas and the Palo Alto Battlefield National Historical Park, Brownsville, Texas.