We've both listened to the podcast from ABC on the Epstein case, as well as watched the documentary "Filthy Rich" on Netflix, and wanted to discuss our thoughts on the Epstein case, and human trafficking in this country and abroad. As we noted in the opening, we will be discussing matters as it relates to crimes against women and children, and assault, so please know that if you plan to listen. It's also probably best not to listen to this episode around small children. It's a sad and scary topic, but one we think needs to be discussed.