NASA wants to land a nuclear reactor on the Moon by 2030. Is this the real deal—or another paper plan? Miles O'Brien talks with Bhavya Lal (RAND, former NASA) and Keith Cowing (NASA Watch) about why space needs nukes and how we get there.

🎧 Plus: meltdown myths, mission politics, and Bhavya's 3-tier roadmap from her report for Idaho National Lab. Read it here: https://inl.gov/content/uploads/2023/07/strategic-options-space-nuclear-leadership.pdf