Gisela Ruckert is active in Fair Vote Canada and an advocate of citizens assemblies as a deliberative process in democracies. Three other participants in this discussion, Joyce McMillan, Bernard Dreano, and the host Metta Spencer all had participated in the Helsinki Citizens Assembly during and immediately after the Cold War. The HCA was a self-selected group, unlike those of currently popular citizens assemblies, which as recruited through sortition, as are juries. HCA brought together Western peace activisits and pro-democracy dissidents in the Eastern bloc. For the video, audio podcast, transcript and public comments: https://tosavetheworld.ca/episode-452-citizens-assemblies. After watching please post your thoughts on the public comments column.