This week we kick off the conversation with a chat about "controlling" kids & phases children go through. Then we jump into what our ideal postpartum support would look like. Talia discusses it from a family stand point and the at home support she would love. Kristen discusses it from a healthcare standpoint and what she thinks should be standard of care. They both lament the absurdity of "family leave" in our country. This lends itself to a discussion of no longer having your family/village close and the disconnect between the expectations place on those raising a family and the lack of support offered.

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