Join us as we sit down for a fun and energetic conversation with film and television composer, record producer, former member of Nine Inch Nails, and the mind behind the musical crescendo in the Saw film franchise, Charlie Clouser! In honour of this episode's guest, we've also temporally changed our theme music to the "Hello Zepp" music as discussed in our conversation.

Charlie starts by telling us the love he has for Australia. Then we launch the show officially as we cover the film franchise, he has now composed music for in the last 20 years, covering 10 films with Saw. We discuss the "Hello Zepp" theme, the Saw films as a whole, creative control, discovering music, getting a big break working at a music store and then ultimately getting fired, the importance of having good communication skills, remaining curious, deadlines, reputation, taking sounds from everyday life and applying them to pieces of music, The Beatles, advice for anyone in creative fields, and a whole lot more!

This episode was a fine example of what we love getting out of this podcast.

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