Over the last 2 years Dr. Grant and I have had many philosophical discussions, for which I am very grateful. He is not only a voice of reason, but he also has a unique perspective grounded in reality and real science, something that the world needs more than ever right now. This is Dr. Grants second appearance on the Humanley podcast, he first came on the show back in March of 2021 on the Dr's Round Table Podcast Episode 24. It was a pleasure to speak with him again. 

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