<p>NCR's Joshua McElwee and Michael Sean Winters talk about Pope Francis' leadership and the legacy of his papacy, five years in. </p>

NCR's Joshua McElwee and Michael Sean Winters talk about Pope Francis' leadership and the legacy of his papacy, five years in.

Episode 48: Pope Francis at Five Years

In Conversation is an in-depth look at the week's Catholic news as seen by the staff at National Catholic Reporter. Hosted by NCR engagement editor Brittany Wilmes, In Conversation features the top thinkers and journalists who report on the life of the Catholic church in the world. National Catholic Reporter is an independent newspaper based in Kansas City, Mo. Read more at www.ncronline.org.

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Episode 48: Pope Francis at Five Years

Episode 48: Pope Francis at Five Years