Michael and Kitty chat with comedian Ron Swallow about Martial Arts, Star Trek, Marvel and DC Comics, stand-up comedy, acting, goth culture, kink and consent, treating people with respect, on-line dating, Doctor Who, Panda Express, racial comedy, wealth disparity, office jobs, roller derby, racism, small dicks, David Bowie, big dicks, The Elfstones of Shannara, Dear White People, Parks and Recreation, lazy comedy, Star Wars, the Krampus, horror movies, Twitter, nerdy shirts, Sith vs. Jedi, Disney, and archery.