We have to know their normal (Pocha & Guille Part 6)

This week’s podcast dives deeper into Pocha and Guille’s dysfunctional relationship. Drawing on decades of experience, Kat and Scott discuss how the two elephants’ bond was shaped by an unnatural life lacking the mental and physical stimulation essential for elephants.

We also explore Pocha’s health and how she presented herself to the team after arriving at Elephant Sanctuary Brazil (ESB). Scott and Kat highlight the importance of daily observation at the sanctuary to understand each elephant’s baseline behavior, allowing subtle changes that signal physical or mental discomfort to be detected early.

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