In this podcast we go down the entertaining and somewhat blunt conversation road of being an innovator in the outdoor industry.  Aaron Keller & Josh Kinser of Big & J and Swagger Bipods join us for a lengthy discussion which includes more than a few rabbit trails.  However, with all that being said Big & J and Swagger Bipods are both innovative companies at their core and have had major success in the outdoor industry with both brands.  It's a conversation we can all learn from and we believe it has what we consider to be; entertaining value at its finest.