In this conversation, Ben and I get into coffee habits, systematic practice, chordal permutation, "exhaustive" guitar players, the 24-hr practice gauntlet, the pandemic woodshed, Vipassana and meditation, "Windowpane", Devourment's new record, lessons from Paul Motian, and playing on David Bowie's final record.

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benmonder.com

For the two pieces Ben mentions listening to at the same time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o37J8U3ku0 + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TTFNZdqwvM