The Trash Talkers discuss Big Five Software, one of the most significant and influential game development companies for the TRS-80. Peter Cetinski interviews Bill Hogue, the founder of the company and programmer of most of Big Five's games. Then, Peter Bartlett interviews Arthur Gleckler, the author of Big Five's final TRS-80 game, Weerd. We wrap up the show by playing and evaluating in real-time a number of Big Five games on the TRS-80.