On the 5th episode of ReFi Podcast, we sit with Markus Franke. We hear about cLabs and the vision for Celo—a mobile-first blockchain.  We discuss natural capital backed currencies, universal basic income, and so much more.

Some of the topics we jump into:

00:00 Intro

01:10 What is Celo and cLabs?

01:51 Celo is a layer 1 blockchain...

05:09 What piece of this puzzle are you involved in?

07:51 Markus "How can we build nature backed currencies on Celo?..."

09:27 Building a simple inclusive mobile system

11:31 Markus "the user experience is very important.."

16:33 What's being built on Celo right now that's redesigning financial systems?

18:11 Markus "kickstarter are decentralising and using Celo.."

21:26 Why is DeFi liquidity good for inclusion?

23:50 Markus "if theres strong liquidity in DeFi then people everywhere can get a loan on Celo"

25:45 How are you making liquidity sustainable on Celo?

27:26 Markus "from the start Defi had a mission to make defi accessible to any mobile user...."

28:59 Markus "this can be used to finance universal income.."

30:19 Markus "this opens up so many possibilities, having something like kickstarter on the blockchain... economic value is created in a sustainable way"

30:51 Empowering people to participate in the financial systems while mitigating risks

35:59 Markus "when we built the protocol we built a simulation...to learn...to see stability..."

37:45 Provo project

39:19 Markus "provo allows banks to try the technology..."

40:09 Can you see your stable coin portfolio sit along side with central bank digital currencies?

40:35 Markus the amazing thing about this technology is it finally allows for competition between currency..innovation..haven't seen innovation for 200 years..."

42:59 The current state of money

45.29 where does money actually come from?

50:09 natural backed currencies in the regenerative system

53:44 Markus "backing money with trees...what we want to see more of..."

54:35 Setting the right financial incentives in nature

58:49 Bringing the natural capital assets on chain

01:04:12 johnx25bd drops some alpha on Astra protocol

01:12:40 Markus "It was interesting to see with NFTs...nature and trees can be NFTs..."

01:13:18 The opportunity in the ReFi movement to redesign money to regenerate the environment

01:16:56 Why should people build on Celo?

Follow Markus and check out cLabs and Celo:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/markus-f-82242028/

https://clabs.co/

https://celo.org/

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