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We talk about the ups and downs, ego and pride, successes and failures that surface when working with other believers. How do you do it successfully? Can friendships survive failed projects? We take you on a journey examining our own career roadblocks for the answers.
Chronological Index:
Michael introduction
Chris mentions pushing through the technical difficulties to execute a podcast
We discuss our recent debate about whether to continue recording King of the Middle on a weekly basis / How hard collaborating can be, especially when working with friends
How rare is it to find like-minded Christian partners for projects? / Surviving clashes, learning from artistic mistakes and missteps
What insight did Michael’s recent marriage give him into the similarities between matrimony and working with creative partners in a committed partnership?
Chris talks about the pain of letting go of his artistic “darlings” when criticized by work partners and learning how to accept failure
Chris mentions Michael Jordan’s recent eulogy at Kobe Bryant’s memorial service: Kobe was a man who sought out advice regarding his weaknesses as an NBA player and ways to improve
Michael, ironically, discusses a recent Michael Jordan documentary that painted a less than flattering look at Jordan’s ego and lack of collaborative skills
Chris talks about some of his early collaborations with Christians in Los Angeles, Was he able to maintain relationships with folks when projects didn’t work out or they came to premature conclusions?
Michael talks about his collaboration with Christian musicians in his early career / How did he deal with situations that fell apart?
Michael compares the difference when working with nonbelievers
Chris’s relatively positive experience working with a couple of nonbelievers on spec commercial projects
Projects Michael and Chris are working on together / Working on a big audio drama project while navigating the choppy waters of disagreements between friends
Benefits of collaboration with fellow Christians / Learning to grow through criticism from your trusted friends / Chris admits he has grown as a person and artist as result of taking criticism from Michael / Michael shares some things he witnessed working with Chris / Michael’s struggles with criticism
It’s hard to find people to constructively criticize your work
Tip: How Chris learned to apply better criticism to his own work / Steps he learned to write much better stories
Someone we know who rebuffed criticism and paid a price
Our work as Christians must be good enough to justify the energy to execute it; Will God bless stubbornly created work?
We want to make a living as artists while walking with God in our missional calling / What if your art is made for hobby's sake?
Michael outro
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The other limited series podcast I mentioned at the start: God & Entertainment Podcast
https://anchor.fm/god-and-entertainment
Our Run Diesel site:
Rundiesel.com
Chris’s unreleased film “A Little Picture” coming soon––so stay tuned!
https://www.facebook.com/kingofthemiddle/
Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLxhg-teum4
Chris’s Website
http://www.cmobmo.com
Michael’s Website and Amazon page
https://michaeljoelgreen.wordpress.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Joel-Green/e/B007SCU7DS/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_ebooks_1
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We talk about the ups and downs, ego and pride, successes and failures that surface when working with other believers. How do you do it successfully? Can friendships survive failed projects? We take you on a journey examining our own career roadblocks for the answers.
Chronological Index:
Michael introduction
Chris mentions pushing through the technical difficulties to execute a podcast
We discuss our recent debate about whether to continue recording King of the Middle on a weekly basis / How hard collaborating can be, especially when working with friends
How rare is it to find like-minded Christian partners for projects? / Surviving clashes, learning from artistic mistakes and missteps
What insight did Michael’s recent marriage give him into the similarities between matrimony and working with creative partners in a committed partnership?
Chris talks about the pain of letting go of his artistic “darlings” when criticized by work partners and learning how to accept failure
Chris mentions Michael Jordan’s recent eulogy at Kobe Bryant’s memorial service: Kobe was a man who sought out advice regarding his weaknesses as an NBA player and ways to improve
Michael, ironically, discusses a recent Michael Jordan documentary that painted a less than flattering look at Jordan’s ego and lack of collaborative skills
Chris talks about some of his early collaborations with Christians in Los Angeles, Was he able to maintain relationships with folks when projects didn’t work out or they came to premature conclusions?
Michael talks about his collaboration with Christian musicians in his early career / How did he deal with situations that fell apart?
Michael compares the difference when working with nonbelievers
Chris’s relatively positive experience working with a couple of nonbelievers on spec commercial projects
Projects Michael and Chris are working on together / Working on a big audio drama project while navigating the choppy waters of disagreements between friends
Benefits of collaboration with fellow Christians / Learning to grow through criticism from your trusted friends / Chris admits he has grown as a person and artist as result of taking criticism from Michael / Michael shares some things he witnessed working with Chris / Michael’s struggles with criticism
It’s hard to find people to constructively criticize your work
Tip: How Chris learned to apply better criticism to his own work / Steps he learned to write much better stories
Someone we know who rebuffed criticism and paid a price
Our work as Christians must be good enough to justify the energy to execute it; Will God bless stubbornly created work?
We want to make a living as artists while walking with God in our missional calling / What if your art is made for hobby's sake?
Michael outro
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
The other limited series podcast I mentioned at the start: God & Entertainment Podcast
https://anchor.fm/god-and-entertainment
Our Run Diesel site:
Rundiesel.com
Chris’s unreleased film “A Little Picture” coming soon––so stay tuned!
https://www.facebook.com/kingofthemiddle/
Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLxhg-teum4
Chris’s Website
http://www.cmobmo.com
Michael’s Website and Amazon page
https://michaeljoelgreen.wordpress.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Joel-Green/e/B007SCU7DS/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_ebooks_1