In episode five of the series, oral historian Dr Siobhán Stevenson meets Surinder Punn and Dr. Karen Patel, two women who work to achieve equality, diversity and inclusion whilst acknowledging the role of intersectional identities.

In part one of this episode, they talk about their early lives and the impact of family dynamics on their work. They discuss the Race Relations Unit and its relationship with the Women’s Unit in the 1980s Birmingham. They also consider changes in legislation and challenges in working towards equality when dealing with the intersections of identity.

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