In this episode, Anna is joined by none other than Poops herself, Cassie!

They discuss their almost two-decade-long friendship and how it has managed to last despite their very different attachment styles and personalities.

There is a trigger warning for the brief mention of SA at 34:40-34:50. For those wishing to skip 10 seconds, the cue is when Anna says the words, "you know, I've alluded to...".

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