Joel speaks to Gracie, a social worker and former art manager in Singapore. They talk about the "circuit breaker" measures in Singapore put in place to curb the spread of Covid-19 and social issues related to that.

Gracie explains how her friends in the arts scene have been coping with Corona and how people have become more reflective and begun to value the simple things in life.

Music in this episode: "All things new" by Wilhelm https://soundcloud.com/iamwilhelm/all-things-new