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Two Black counselors who are bridging the gap between what they were taught, what they know, and what they think they know. All through understanding the world by recognizing the world is still being formed.

Today is a special day y’all, we have two great visitors who are gonna immensely add to the topic we are having today. Before we get into that, I’d love for y’all to introduce yourselves

Introduce our guest speaker: Dr. Cleweston Challenger

Episode Topic:  Grief, Love, and reflection: How do we cope with losing someone /Kobe

Segment A: Lebert gives Topic Recap: Kobe Bryant, his daughter Gianna, and seven other people recently died on January 26th in a tragic helicopter accident. The loss of life elicited emotional responses from a multitude of people, and many people found themselves reflecting on the various legacies that Kobe in particular left behind as an icon who had been in many of our lives for almost our entire lives.

Info Section: As the professional in the room, can you speak to us about grief just a little bit, Dr. Challenger?

Questions to guide your thoughts Dr. Challenger - 3 min

Question 1) What are some feelings you had in relation to Kobe’s passing? How did the passing affect you if it did  10 min

Even as a celebrity who we do not actually know, the feeling of loss has been palpable in many of our lives. Research has evidenced the celebrity deaths can authentically feel like the passing of real family members-  Great. a lil bit, but i hAve a lil something

Question 2) What are some other instances where you have felt this way? In what way did you feel connected to them? How did it positively or negatively impact you?  5 min

Celebrity, Family, Non -Family, mentor, community member

Segment B: Gayle King recently attempted to due his legacy justice in a short interview where she covered a variety of topics, one of them being Kobe’s sexual assault case with Lisa Leslie. She covered a variety of topics, and her mention of the case caused an explosion via social media discussing precisely that. More specifically, Snoop Dogg, who recently apologized, had a large barrage of words for Gayle.

Question 3) It seemed that Snoop’s attack on Gayle specifically attacked her Blackness, and this is a common trend Black women get when attempting to hold Black men accountable. How did the response make you feel? 5 mi

Question 4 ) What does the term “Legacy” mean to you? What does Kobe’s legacy look like in your eyes 5 min

Lead By Example: A segment where we highlight Black people who we think are doing or did good work

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