In this episode I spoke with Katie Moran. In our conversation, Katie describes her journey from being a curious kid who sourced confidence and motivation from team sports to becoming a teacher, lawyer, and now law school professor. She highlights how informal learning — outside of school and curriculum — and her efforts to reflect regularly on her progress propelled her forward through various career paths. I was most intrigued to hear about Katie’s approach to incorporating mindsets into law school curriculum; what started as a push to help more students pass the formidable Bar exam led to her developing a unique course all about growth mindset, self-regulation and countering imposter syndrome as a foundational experience for developing lawyers. She embodies the idea of “How can we get the most out of this experience?” and it was a pleasure to hear her share examples of how this has shown up in her life.