Maryia and Vitaly sit down with Maaret Pyhäjärvi — an exceptionally seasoned tester, manager, consultant and speaker whose work has influenced teams and communities around the world. What begins as a conversation about a persistent managerial myth — the belief that employees are inherently lazy — quickly evolves into a discussion of the forces that shape motivation at work. We also we ventured the broader themes of professional ethics, education in tech, leadership models, and what it really means to create environments where people can thrive.

Links:

1. Maaret's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maaret/

2. Vitaly's research on laziness: https://beyondquality.org/research/laziness

Sponsors:

1. Qase https://qase.io/

2. Regent https://regent.se

3. AnuKrit https://anukrit.de