In this episode we talk about news with vibe coded apps getting hacked, our interesting views on Halo ITSM and seeing its growth in the IT Service Management world, and our "heated" exchange on ServiceNow's Flow Designer vs Workflow Editor. We also pour one out upon hearing that with ServiceNow's Zurich Release scheduled for later this year, all the out of box workflows in Workflow Editor have been migrated over to Flow Designer, beginning the deprecation of Workflow Editor (it's a bittersweet conversation on this one).