Jamie and Chloe embark on a quarantine romance retrospective, chat self love, and delve into the tormented psychology of the oppressor.

Episode 5: Simping for Marianne Williamson

<p>Join Chloé Valdary (NYT, Theory of Enchantment) and Jamie Kilstein (The Joe Rogan Experience, Conan) as they explore, well, just about everything. From hip hop and comedy&nbsp;to spirituality and politics, <em>So much Things to say</em> aims to help you figure out this f*cked up crazy world and discover the redemption in it -- and in yourself.</p>

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Join Chloé Valdary (NYT, Theory of Enchantment) and Jamie Kilstein (The Joe Rogan Experience, Conan) as they explore, well, just about everything. From hip hop and comedy to spirituality and politics, So much Things to say aims to help you figure out this f*cked up crazy world and discover the redemption in it -- and in yourself.

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Episode 5: Simping for Marianne Williamson

Episode 5: Simping for Marianne Williamson