In this, the fifth Episode of Curious, Connected Conversations, Katy is in conversation with Jo Gifford.

In this conversation:
- How the Energetic Self Success System arrived for Katy
- How it all works
- How the system combines ancient wisdom and meridian points
- How the system is developing and how we can access it
...and much more.

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Music credit: Joseph McDade