<p>Steve is not some big shot. He is not the vice president of Google Cheese, a totally made-up division that probably needs a VP. In this episode, Sam and Steve talk about what success means and how they've defined it on their own terms.</p>

Steve is not some big shot. He is not the vice president of Google Cheese, a totally made-up division that probably needs a VP. In this episode, Sam and Steve talk about what success means and how they've defined it on their own terms.

Episode 5: Why aren't you a big shot

<p>In this limited series, Sam Ladner and Steve Portigal talk about what a research career looks like, even when it goes "off the path."</p>

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In this limited series, Sam Ladner and Steve Portigal talk about what a research career looks like, even when it goes "off the path."

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