Victor Cruz and Shawn “Pecas” Costner talk about cultivating their “Starting Five,” or the community of people closest to you that will show up and support you on your journey, and how to best show up for them as well. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Victor Cruz and Shawn “Pecas” Costner talk about cultivating their “Starting Five,” or the community of people closest to you that will show up and support you on your journey, and how to best show up for them as well. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Victor Cruz and Shawn “Pecas” Costner talk about&nbsp;cultivating their “Starting Five,” or the community of people closest to you that will show up and support you on your journey, and how to best show up for them as well. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="noopener noreferrer">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Episode 5: Your Starting 5

In her thirty years working as a music industry executive at Island Def Jam and Jive Records, Grace Harry has lived her many creative lives at the intersection of music, art, and the passionate pursuit of joy—a long forgotten, but vital birthright. Many of us have no idea what joy truly is, and capturing it is often easier said than done.

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Episode 5: Your Starting 5

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