This is episode fifty of Curious, Connected Conversations, and Katy welcomes back Kerry Hales for the second week running. Kerry is a transformational life coach and a bestselling author – Life Lessons from Your Knicker Drawer is out now. Go seek it out...

In this conversation:

- Birthing a book

- Shame filling underwear

- Reasons we hold on to our knickers

...and much more.

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Music credit: Joseph McDade

Connect with Kerry via her website and Instagram.