In this episode, I read an excerpt from Hemingway’s The Old Man and the Sea:

“He settled comfortably against the wood and took his suffering as it came and the fish swam steadily and the boat moved slowly through the dark water.”

Then I shared some thoughts and asked some questions about suffering and how it shows up in our lives and what we do with it.

I'd love to hear what you have to say about the episode including thoughts on the poetry and the topics that were discussed. You can email me at [email protected].

My first book of poetry, My Mother Sleeps, is availabe for purchase at

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