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NYT journalist and author of Uninhabitable Earth David Wallace-Wells returns to Bad Faith to talk about his ongoing coverage of public health and RFK Jr.'s recent upsets at the CDC. He's joined by epidemiologist Gabrielle Perry. We debate the root cause of public mistrust in public health and whether Democrats are failing again as they attempt to respond to the CDC fiasco.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).