Host Rachel Zucker talks with poet and educator TC Tolbert (author of Gephyromania and co-editor of Troubling the Line) about a car accident that changed the course of TC's writing life, the process of healing, learning to love the smallest things, having to ask someone to carry your weight, speaking to a younger self, *seeing one aspect of life as a metaphor for other patterns of living*, and coming out as trans. They talk about teaching, wanting to go back to school, and about the Bagley Wright Lecture Series conference at University of Arizona.