Ben and Drew are joined by Sydney Gaskins and Thomas Kiley of UMBC Mock Trial. Drew takes over interviewing duties as Ben, Sydney and Thomas discuss the journey that was the last four years, how the program overcame some difficult challenges when Sydney and Thomas were freshmen, whether they considered not competing for their senior year in an online season, how they felt as UMBC progressed through the field at Nationals in 2021, and what it was like to win a national championship.