Theologian and pastor Claudio Carvalhaes is the brilliant liturgical artist and professor at Union Theological Seminary in New York City. He is so full of life, creativity, and love for the world. Being around him is profoundly transformative.

In part two, he and host Sara Hayden talk about prayer as a movement, a rhythm, a force that forms and shapes us and, through us, our communities; what it means to develop a holistic view of the world and all the creatures, great and small, within it; and about praying with worms.