This week we had a conversation with our friend, Dave Fry. We had an enlightening odyssey into what is true for all human beings. We hope you enjoy adventure as much as we did! Reach out to Dave by email: [email protected] or through his website at: https://www.davefry-thespacebetween.com/ Rob and Patricia can be reached at [email protected] or https://www.ourimperfectlifepodcast.com/