Welcome to episode 52 of More Than a Refresh, where JD sits down with Patrick Broderick, Consulting Forester and Founder @ Eastside Forestry.

In this episode, Patrick and JD discuss passion vs. profit, why our forests need a guiding hand, and how both sides of the political aisle are thinking about conservation all wrong.

For educational resources on the state of our forests, to get involved in the conservation effort, or to make a donation to a non-profit that is doing the boots-on-the-ground work, please visit https://www.kittitasconservationtrust.org/donate/