Serious Fun returns with another slate of live episodes from the 2023 Brown County Library Pop-Con! This week, Bryan sits down with Patrick and Savannah O'Connor of power pop band The Shake Ups and discusses their unique blend of cartoon and musical influences in front a live audience! This "animated" conversation also covers copyright and licensing, songwriting and musical arrangement, remix culture, and so much more! Download it already!

Check out the Shake Ups' music, find their tour dates, and peruse their albums and merch at http://www.theshakeups.net

Song credits:

The Shake Ups - "Meddling Kids"

The Shake Ups - "Robot Arm"