Welcome to episode #53 of the podcast and a long overdue conversation with our dear friend, Carl Roberts.

Carl is a wonderful songwriter, primarily known as frontman for the irrepressibly brilliant, Gintis.

This is an episode that's been waiting to happen since we started the show and it doesn't disappoint.

Our gratitude to Carl for coming on the show and sharing the demo for, 'Hope is All We Have'.

If you only click on one link today, click the one below for the performance of Gintis' masterpiece, 'Now I Know'. Then dive into the back catalogue. All Killer!

Love and thanks

Steve and Ben xx

Now I Know (live)

Gintis on Soundcloud