For about four months, Ed Martin was the embattled voice of Trumpism on CNN.

In the latest episode of The Jamie Weinstein Show, the confidante of the late Phyllis Schlafly talks the state of Trumpism, getting fired by CNN, why he supported Roy Moore, his time working for Pope John Paul II, and much more.

Show Roadmap– What has surprised him about Trump’s presidency – On what his interactions with Trump have taught him – Why Martin thinks Trump won the GOP primary – On his time at CNN, his firing — and why he’s sorry – Whether he has any concerns about Trump – Why Martin proudly stood by Roy Moore – On his time working for Pope John Paul II – On his career and influences