This week's show reverberates to some light jazz and the clatter of ice in a cocktail shaker. Our hosts raise a v-shaped glass to the late, great Sir Roger Moore.

The chaps return to talking about education and the best way forward for people looking to further their design education. The martinis don't help them make their minds up. Or much sense.

This episode is bookended with recipes from dead celebrities. Jon wings it with one of Linda McCartney's Vegetarian Country pies. Like her singing, it's not very good.