In previous podcasts, we have spoken at length about how large transformation projects expose leaders to, what the Cynefin Framework describes as, the 'Complicated' and 'Complex' domains of decision making. These can be summarised by dealing with 'known unknowns' and 'unknown unknowns'. In this episode, Jez and Dave are joined by leadership coach, Alastair Kidd to discuss how the situation of COVID-19 has forced many leaders into the 'Chaotic' domain, where immediate action is imperative to reestablish order.