Rachel was Dan's introduction to the Wilmington, Delaware music scene. And there IS a Wilmington music scene, smarty. Dan and Rachel talk about her new EP, "Enough", getting floored by talented kids using technology to make amazing art, Elvis Costello, quieting the voice inside that tells you to give up, a mutual love of Pretenders' front-woman Chrissie Hynde, and how to just keep making your art amidst your crazy life. Also, Dan talks about his seminar on podcasting for college students at this year's CBI conference in Philadelphia.