With so many education bills gaining traction that received no support from the education community, including a clear attack on the voice of educators with SB 634, Fried Okra asks legislative guru Ivy Riggs to shed a light on why this is happening and the motivations behind placing a singular target on a woman-dominated profession that has a track-record of holding Oklahoma lawmakers accountable in their commitment to public education.

Alicia and Carrie then have a fascinating conversation with Reverend Shannon Fleck from the Oklahoma Conference of Churches, who discusses "No Hate in the Heartland" and why education is such an important tenant of their work.