We recently approached a very smart and open-minded young woman for a podcast. Nana Giyose works in a corporate environment by day and teaches Zulu and English by night. Pietie planned on getting to know her on a personal level and hearing her thoughts on #BlackLivesMatter. We thought the conversation would progress gradually... But Nana and Pietie immediately dived to the depths of truth. (#BLM was supposed to be a departure point but instead we flew without take-off.) Radiating warmth, wisdom, bravery and kindness, Nana gives us an education in humanity, without preaching a second. We feel lucky to share this with you.