My guest is Kenneth Tanner. He's the pastor of Church of the Holy Redeemer in Rochester Hills, Mich. He writes for numerous websites and magazines, including "The Huffington Post" and "Sojourners." We discuss the lectionary passages for the Thirteenth Sunday after Pentecost (B): 1 Kings 2:10-12; 3:3-14, Ephesians 5:15-20 and John 6:51-58.

Special Guest: Kenneth Tanner.